Catering to a younger age causes the issues the forum has. I don’t think buildthomas means that the forum shouldn’t allow or stop catering to minors, but rather, appeal to them more so the forum can be more usable for 18+.
Typically 18+ users are more mature than 13+ users. We’re at 13+ and it’s not working, that and users aged 18+ are more likely to own IDs compared to 13+ (so can prove their identity better).
Maybe 16? But 18 is a good start. Things need to change and an increased focus on more key demographics is part of that.
There are too few adults here on the forum, and as an adult myself I relate better to other adults in similar stages of their life and the problems and difficulties they experience as developers. 13-18 year olds have completely different mindsets, problems and insights compared to people who pursue Roblox as a hobby or as a professional career in their 20s. Hope that makes sense.
Yes, I fully support this as their are some people on the forums who don’t really care about development in general and just post the most random topics for clout or likes and then there at people who use the fourms as a tool for development and are engaged. I do think Roblox should implement these and focus on the forums as well and towards developers on the forums also. Maybe a team of some sort to add these?
prefer 18+ users
He did not suggest an absolute requirement of 18+, but rather to design the forum in such a way that would promote 18+ users, whereas the current setup discourages them due to the lack of mature discussion.
I do agree with you on almost all of your suggestions. However, I might have to disagree with the one that prefers 18+ users instead of 13+ users. Someone did a poll interview a while back and one of the questions asked for the user’s age range:
As you can see, only around 10% of the DevForum community is over 18 according to this poll, and there are some great developers I know that are under 18 that have made significant contributions to the DevForum. Moderation history should have a much greater influence on forum promotions than age, but I do understand your point.
The DevForum is open to all developers, whether they are using it as a pass-time, or if they are using it as a career. However, we need to ensure that all discussions that are taking place on the DevForum are related to development. I personally wouldn’t mind hiding statistics from profiles because statistics turn the DevForum into a social media platform instead of a professional development resource.
And even though I am only a member, I would support removing this lounge category I have heard about that only regulars can access and you can post off-topic things, and as far as I know, it is only here today because of legacy. This is making many members use the DevForum as a social media platform and also making them try to get their stats really high so they can become a regular.
In addition to my previous suggestions, the moderators should also look into feature requests about the improvement of the forum. Here are a few topics that should be noticed:
If we emphasize that the target of the DevForum is for developers and not for people who think it’s the “new Roblox Forums”, it will solve most of the problems regarding #development-discussion and #resources, and a lot of the garbage that is produced in these categories will not be created as often.
I show % support for this.
I’m fairly sure I have it down as “prefer” 18+ users, as in stimulate acquisition in higher age ranges. I’m not saying anyone currently 18- should not be allowed to participate. Anyone who is legally 13+ is fine to have on the forum if they follow posting rules and etiquette.
Thank you for posting this. The devforum has gotten completely out of hand. As a developer, I see two main problems:
People who do not satisfy the term “developer” are overusing the developer forum in ways it was not intended
“Real”/serious developers are being drowned out, by spam, and by the large amount of questions or posts that frankly don’t belong here even if about development. Most of the development questions asked here can be answered easily by searching the wiki and most of the development related discussions are completely pointless
While I’m not a widely known or big developer, I take development seriously and have been at it for several years. It’s a significant source of income for me and it really sucks that all of the high quality questions and showcases are completely drowned out.
Roblox needs to take a serious step at preventing users who shouldn’t be here from using the forum. It’s the developer forum not the roblox forum 2.0.
Like @buildthomas said, there needs to be tactical barriers.
I would also add that it may be time to reverse membership ranks for some people since even if roblox plugs the hole there is still mold in the container.
I didn’t get into the forum until the first membership criteria change but I’ve read it for years and it’s quite sad that all the innovative discussions are mostly gone.
Delete 2/3 of the posts in development discussion lately and nothing bad will happen. There is a reason there are now twitter accounts that like to post screenshots of silly posts in development discussion. It seems like they all have endless content since they really do.
And frankly I have always loved seeing new and inexperienced developers start to learn how to code or build, but as harsh as this may sound I mean no offense:
The majority of the devforum should be for older, more experienced and serious developers. Making a super basic tycoon or obby as a 13 year old does not make you a developer in my mind, seeing as how 90% of our posts now are from that player group and regular players.
Thanks, please read up before posting!
The forum is heading to become the next Roblox Forum v2, where its a meme and is too annoying to view anymore.
I don’t have any input for a resolve, just wanted to thank OP for bringing this to light. Miss the dev forum content from 2 years back, was very knowledgeable and enjoyable.
What would be considered “… for the sake of posting and not seriously interested in development.”? What are some example of posting just to post. This could also be a potential issue since not too many people are in DevEx, and smaller developers who make games just for Robux, and not for a living are unable to get help and hire others to work. They can’t promote their game and get people in a Roblox game, it isn’t the right place.
People who are posting questions for the sake of getting attention/Likes/etc, not because they actually have a development problem or concern they want to discuss about.
I am not going to link to specific examples in this post because it is not my intention to call anyone out.
Can you explain an example of this? I’ve never seen it before.
For example, people in #Updates reply to an announcement saying “Oh cool I’ll use this” without bringing anything new to the table or contributing in any way.
I’m talking more about “Do you think developers should eat peanut butter sandwiches more often?”-esque topics in Development Discussion. What you are talking about is not necessarily non-development-related.
I couldn’t have stated it better myself. The DevForum was once a constructive place to grow and help each other. Now, I see random posts that just deter from what good it used to do.
I don’t think DevEx eligibility should be a key factor for Developer Forum access. For instance I haven’t used DevEx and I wouldn’t want that to be one of the key factors for not allowing me into the forums if I was a newer developer.
Other than that though, I do agree that there should be more barriers for entry to the forums. Studio time however is a really good idea for entry.
You can easily slap a “As a developer, should you …” and call it a day. There were a few instances of this, like “Should developers drink more coffee?” or “As a developer, what’s your daily schedule?”
Then maybe there should be a category called “Miscellaneous” or “Misc” that doesn’t show up in your regular feed if you turn off the setting, and it doesn’t contribute to your like/ post count. This could be used to answer not heavily development questions, and could be a mini “hangout” area if must.