I like this update but if you are comparing clothing to adding audio, it is a little expensive. How much would it cost to upload a shirt? If you need to pay 800 or 500 robux to upload a shirt then I don’t think is worth the update. Adding a large tax could make clothing profits or clothing creators maybe not want to upload shirts because there is a chance of not making a profit.
Clothing copiers make the front page, that means they have to be making alot of robux, this means that the designers they stole from isnt making the robux they should have, itll fix spamming but not copying
edit: small designers dont make that much either, especially since they rarely / will never make the front page.
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Although this sounds like a great update, there is also its trade-offs.
In my opinion, the update doesn’t sound very biased for both creators and shoppers. They are mostly directing their attention to the bots that are filling up the shop with the same item.
Just like @Glitterkittyparty108 had said, “This seems like more like a bandage on a wound rather than directly treating the problem.”.
Small clothing groups who post clothing onto their group usually see a small amount of Robux going into group funds as a huge achievement for them.
Keeping the fee 100 Robux would just cancel a bunch of small (but incredibly good) clothing groups.
This would affect everyone. It would affect the shoppers. It would affect the creators. It will affect the entire Roblox website.
Clothing is a major part on Roblox.
The experience will be similar to audio upload
The audio upload is even more stressful to upload. Making the clothing upload similar to the audio upload is just going to decline the Roblox Clothing Catalog by a very large majority.
What the update should include in my opinion:
- Allowing non-premium users to keep creating items, but lower the upload fee to about 5-30 Robux.
- Premium users can still upload for free, not making the Premium perk largely pointless
- Add a captcha, but less difficult
This would necessarily “Fix” the clothing problem (Because it has already gone to chaos), but it would die down future damage to the shop.
Please please please! We need your ideas to theorize what would be best for the clothing catalog.
Because this affects everyone on the platform, not just the creators.
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Also, I don’t think you’ll have to pay the fee again (Because they’ll probably refund you the 100 Robux back if it wasn’t accepted)
I’ve been on Roblox since 2015 in and out of different communities. Throughout this time I have been apart of many a clothing group and spoken to many clothing designers, more importantly, I’ve listened to them.
I’ve read most of the comments on this page, and suffice to say it’s troubling how so many people have opinions when they don’t know what they’re talking about. If you’re a builder, scripter, graphics designer, or anybody who is not a clothing designer that cannot be mature enough to put themselves in the shoes of small designers - you don’t get to have an opinion on this. At least not an educated opinion.
Most clothing designers won’t make 100 Robux in a year, let alone for one design which means they won’t get a change of return for anything they upload - they’ll be wasting money. It’s hard enough for them to make money with the lack of support Roblox gives them and to think yet another obstacle is being put in their way is despicable. Developers don’t need to pay anything to make games and a fee for good-intentioned designers is ridiculous. I assume this has come about to stop copied clothing - a problem, which I might add, has been brought about through Roblox’s lack of care or moderation towards the search engine or designers - but this could easily be sorted by just moderating the upload system better and setting obstacles in motion to only ensure good-intentioned designers upload something.
This decision amongst many others I assume has come about to try and take the easy way out of fixing a long-term problem without talking to the people it directly affects. This fee doesn’t just make it harder for start-up designers, it makes it nearly impossible for them: most new designers can barely afford premium let alone a 100 robux fee per design uploaded. If we do the math, most outfits are two pieces with the pants and shirt so that’s actually 200 per outfit. The lowest Robux purchase is 400 which is nearly 5 DOLLARS. Five dollars for just two outfits.
This is just an impossible amount for small designers, let alone those who wish to start their own design group. If Roblox would have just sat down and spoken to prominent designers and people who advocate for designers, they could fix their attitude.
What’s more, if this was a one-off lousy decision towards clothing designers it may not be so bad. But this is a string of poor decisions demonstrating the low level of respect and appreciation Roblox has for designers big and small.
I sincerely recommend that anybody wishing to know more about Roblox’s lack of appreciation to clothing designers should check out @Anareloux 's twitter and devforum posts regarding this. They have made some fantastic points and it would be in Roblox’s best interests to listen to them.
And for those who will inevitable tell me I’m not a clothing designer… I know, I’m not. But I do have the highest level of respect for Clothing designers and I have listened to the struggles of lots so I deem myself knowledgable of how bad they’re treated and how bad this change is.
Have a wonderful day.
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This is very revolutionary, yet how would this fix the already copied clothing, that has been uploaded over the past years. There are for sure over trillions of clothing pieces right now lying somewhere on the ROBLOX platform, within its Avatar Shop.
I find it really amazing that they’re looking to finally give people that can not buy or afford to buy Premium. This may open our fellow robloxian friends to be able to show us their talents that they couldn’t show for so long. Yet, I don’t find it paying a 100 Robux very necessary while you already take 30% of our earnings as well as the creators afterwards not earning enough back to posting more content for everyone to enjoy. Looking at this from a different perspective, this would only help the platform to slow down the crazy amount of shirts and pants being copy pasted to multiple accounts and groups because some people are just too money hungry.
I hope these questions can be answered as detailed as possible, after some point.
- What brought you to invent/come up with this pay to upload method?
- Why do you think this would save the clothing section on ROBLOX?
- How would this save the clothing section on ROBLOX.
- Would there be differences made depending on the popularity of ones creator or any discounts for uploading clothes when a user has Premium or anything related to that?
Well, the catalog is already ruined. Although this update will help, there’s not much that can be done about the current situation. All those botted clothing assets will continue to remain there until Roblox thinks of some other alternative solution for getting rid of botted results. There are also MANY reasons why this update will not make the catalog better. First of all, removing the Premium requirement in my opinion is absurd. Premium caused clothing uploads to become more time-consuming since a payment for Premium was required. The people behind these bots will now be able to MUCH MORE EASILY upload clothing due to the fact that Premium will no longer be required. All these people will have to do is buy some cheap robux from the black market and they’ll be ready to spam upload clothing again. Charging fees for clothing will cause MULTIPLE genuine clothing designers to straight up quit. It’ll be a detriment to their ability to earn profit, and there is no guarantee this solution will help clean up the clothing catalog. Overall, I simply can’t see many reasons by which this update is beneficial in the grand scheme of things. Of course, this is just my opinion on the problem at hand.
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hi. i think it is good and bad at the same time at some points.
1.it will discourage copiers who copy clothes
2.we dont premium its good
3.not everyone can have that much 100robux per shirt
4.if shirt wont succeed it will go in vain
5.it is difficult for some people who cant afford robux and premium and their only hope is designing clothes.
6.some people with no premium ask other premium members to upload their clothes and now its done.
we cant handle that.
There should be a fee ONLY if you don’t have Premium. If you have Premium, there shouldn’t be a fee.
To solve the problem of botted/spam clothing, there should be a Captcha when you upload clothing. Also I think it would be smart to make it so you have limited uploads per week, similar to the UGC program.
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This update is something that will destroy and restrict small designers/groups from continuing. Depending on how this update will play out, this will not stop bots from copying clothes, but rather encourage them since less clothing will be created. The botters will only payout their botters with robux and continue on with their lives.
It also saddens me that after this update, it will cause people to not create clothing anymore since they will not be able to pay the fee. It is already hard enough for small designers to make 100 robux in a month, yet it is going to be the same amount to pay to upload them? It is going to be impossible for designers and overall hurt them.
I appreciate the thought of stopping bots from copying clothes but with this, there is no hope for new designers or even pre-existing small designers.
This update is only going to make clothing designers struggle even more. They already have to deal with people stealing their clothes, but now they have to deal with a fee they can’t afford to pay. Botters will only benefit from this update and this is where many designer’s journeys will be forced to end.
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Its fix is investing in more moderation staff or adding a Captcha that also monitors your website activity and not just give you a puzzle. Removing premium requirements for clothes also removes premium requirements for the bots, too. All they’re doing is just making it easier for the bots to copy clothing.
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Thanks for forgetting about the small developers! The richer you are, the more you can do.
Powering Imagination? Haha, no. Only if you have enough Robux!
I absolutely don’t support this change, it’s terrible and you’re turning against the Roblox from a few years ago where developing and creating stuff should be accessable for everyone.
You should start removing the barriers to create stuff instead of creating new ones. But hey: money first, creativity second.
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Ok lets flip the script here from a designer to a group owner. Lets say you add a fee, lets say the fee is 100 robuxs. Lets play this out;
- Prices of shirts will go way up.
Result: Groups that rely on people buying uniforms will be less effective.
You may be saying that people will keep the price at 5. well just to remember roblox take 30% so your 5 goes down to 3 meaning that you would have to sell 34 shirts just to make up that upload fee.
This update wont just hurt people who shirt spam. It hurts groups and designers.
There would be a way to mitigate this but it would really only play out well if roblox was to drop the fee it takes our of profits for sales.
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Remember that breaking premium barriers just gives the ability to bot to a lot more people, and also makes Roblox loose money. I don’t know what they’re thinking, but this is an absolutely terrible solution. No, this isn’t even an attempted solution at this point, it’s outright just self-destruction.
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This would be good for people who cant buy premium, but not profitable for many people who make clothes. If people who do a lot of clothing with the aim of making money from it, the clothes won’t be profitable for them. With the new update, we will be able to use clothes like an asset, but not as income, unless you are a popular fashion designer.
I do find this to be a really good update. It can really help the clothing designers clothing to not be stolen. However, I do not like the 100 robux fee you have to pay. Isn’t 100 robux a bit too much of a fee?
Many small clothing designer cannot profit that fee. If you have to pay 100 robux everytime you upload like 1 shirt or pants, that isn’t good at all. If you upload 5 different variants of the same shirt (5 different colors), would you have to pay 500 robux in total? Not many Roblox players have the robux for that and I would really feel bad for those small clothing designers who barely make any robux from their clothing (If each clothing is like 5 robux).
I wish that the fee would be a bit lower than 100 robux because that is a bit expensive. The only good side about this is that it will prevent botted clothing which is nice.
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Terribly great.
This is a very iffy one.
I don’t agree with it personally - I think the solution you should take is instead stepping up your moderation force to combat “item upload abuse”.
It’s like in school when one kid messes around so the entire class gets detention.
It doesn’t work and that theory still will never work. Maybe in theory, but not really in practice.
Not for this kind of situation, anyway.
You’re taxing small-time developers and designers of their chance to get kickback without having to risk an arm and a leg that they don’t even have.
The clothing fee was kind of a bad move. Sorry to say it.
On the other hand, you’re doing a lot to help clothing groups stay unique AND successful. Kudos to you for trying.
I guess it’s just a win/loss situation.
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The Revolutionary update has arrived. I am quite excited to be able to finally be able to see successful clothing groups. This is going to be a great start to 2021!
However, there are many concerns that I would have about spending money to upload. In the short term, it definitely will decrease the number of bots mass-producing clothing, however, the biggest problem still stands, actual clothing theft. This update most likely won’t stop people from actually stealing the content that designers actually make. This definitely will discourage them, but it wont stop it.
Overall I love the recognition this issue is getting from Roblox and I hope they continue to solve this problem.
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Finally!!! I’ve been waiting forever for this feature! Man, as long as it’s not as expensive as uploading audios, I’m good!
Will people with premium be allowed to still upload for free?
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