Thanks for avoiding to answer the 
elephant in the room (
the fee for the clothing uploadsâ:moneybag:)! I truly donât understand why all these Premium benefits are being removed all of a sudden. Whatâs the incentive for buying Premium anymore other than for trading, earning more robux, and premium benefits in games? Before we know it, trading and selling limited will no longer be restricted to only Premium members (which would be a disastrous mess if this were to occur)!!!
I understand that the goal with these updates is to allow new developers and players to gain easier access to simple features without the exclusive premium restriction. However, I can see NUMEROUS downsides to this approach of changing the clothing system and other pre-existing features as well. This update will be really de-motivating to many clothing designers and casual designers such as myself.
My Summary: Horrible Decision
I think this is a horrible decision on Robloxâs part. Developers use t-shirts to allow their customers to pay them.
Just to upload one whole shirt, you have to pay 100 robux. Not everyone is a good clothing designer, they might never make that robux back. If your going to not require premium, then at least let those who do have premium to not have to do this down payment. This is totally taking the spotlight out of small and aspiring creators. For sure, Iâm moving away from the clothing design industry. Such. a. stupid. idea.
This is dragging an already dying community to the grave. Launching this update with no changes to the avatar shop as it is will kill off the rest of the clothing creators on Roblox. Clothing creation simply isnât a profitable thing to do with the current conditions of the catalog. Out of all the clothing I have made, only two pieces have made enough to be âprofitableâ, but only enough to cover the fee. This is a horrible decision and should be reconsidered.
that, or you could directly jump to the image id.
An easy way to stop copying from happening, is just to simply let the uploader choose if they want to let people download their images or not.
This would not only defend clothing designers from theft, but allows players to control who and who doesnt have access to the downloaded image as a whole.
I seriously wonder if this has crossed the staff at any time and point, it may have, but obviously couldâve got ruled out when money was introduced to the scale. Because company ethics.
As of right now to upload clothing you have to have premium, in which case you receive 400 - 2200 depending on your plan. With the update you will have to pay 100 per shirt you upload.
Letâs wait and see for the update to actually launch and we will see if itâs just a brief setback. I doubt any skid-exploiter with a free clothing bot wants to spend 5,000 Robux on fees just to upload stolen clothing that wonât get any sales anyways.
First, this isnât how clothing stealers get templates. If you go back a few IDs you will find a low quality template of what you uploaded.
Second, by saying âfixâ do you mean making it hidden? If it were hidden/unviewable to anyone but the owner, then only the owner would be able to load the clothing in-game.
This is the same as model stealing. Itâs like if you want to keep a model from being stolen, but you also want the client to see it in-game. Itâs not possible. Anything loaded can be stolen.
I always wondered why and how bots and their owners target clothing.
Because when the market gets as saturated as it is right now with the same repetitive clothing over and over, how do they profit from such expeditions?
Actually, stolen clothing is generally going to make more money than actual clothing. They have power in absolutely insane numbers. They already spend a lot of money on actually setting the stuff up in order to bot, whoâs to say they donât just do it more - base level Premium can get you 4 shirts per month assuming it costs 100 Robux. This doesnât stop or solve the existing botted clothing and all of the money that the bots have already made off of it.
The only people that can fix stealing of models and clothing is Roblox by removing the ability for people to trace links back to Roblox servers or some method of data encryption. Thatâll take a lot of extra work, though. What Roblox can do a lot quicker is invest in moderation or AI that detects when already posted clothing is re-uploaded and removes it from the platform. Thatâs what they really should be doing right now.
Itâs actually quite simple.
Botters donât just bot via the upload page. Clothing botters with no idea what theyâre doing might just upload hundreds of templates, but thereâs a lot of malicious users who do something like this:
- Make a small amount of profit with regular botting. (If you upload 10 shirts that appeals to kids with a load of tags in the description, you will make Robux sooner or later.)
- Change the price of one of your shirts to however much Robux you have. (500-2000)
- Buy it from yourself.
Doing this will get it on the front page of clothing, youâll get 70% back of what you spent too. Tons of kids will see it and buy it, they donât know any better that theyâre supporting a clothing botter.
Do this over and over and you make a lot of profit.
This already exists for deleting duplicate decals that have been moderated. I have no idea why it isnât being used for clothing stealers.
This is roblox we are talking about. Think about it.
In a perfect world, you spend money for the fee and profit. But this is not a perfect world.
Most people donât even get one sale on their clothing. You are on the right track with this update, but atleast make the fee 10 - 25 robux.
Nice that you are targeting the awfull people that clothing botters are.
However maybe a fee for all to publish isnât the best fix? Idk? This could either be good or bad for clothing creators.
We shall seeâŚ
Seems like another update to suit big groups if you ask me. I donât see small groups being able to survive at all with this change.
This wonât halt the groups that steal clothing whatsoever, the amount they make on a daily basis makes the 100 Robux tax completely insignificant. I donât see how small clothing designers are going to be able to cope, not to mention, whatâs gonna happen to premium?
Premium seems to be losing all of its perks and it really doesnât seem like itâs worth purchasing it anymore.
Yeah, Iâve spent a lot of money to keep builders club/premium. Iâve probably spent over 100$ at least alone just on premiums and builders club. Not to mention the fact of Robux. Now that they are removing perks Iâm starting to question why I should bother.
Ooof didnât see how big the fee was sorry
But atleast itâs better then having to pay for premium
I want you all to keep in mind that designers would be charged 200 Robux per outfit (If the fee would be 100 R$)!! For every 5 outfits, we would need to have 1,000 Robux which is a little over $10 USDâŚAdditionally, not all designers make enough profit to turn around and spend 100 Robux per item!! With the wait of pending sales (3 - 7 days), itâll also take a bit longer for us to receive the revenue that we may or may not make from the clothing items. Iâd rather pay $5 USD a month to upload an unlimited amount of clothing than continuously buy Robux just to upload.
For everybody who is saying this will help stop the copiers and so on, it will NOT. The copiers are already too far into this, they have made millions off of original designers already. This fee is nothing to them and they will continue to do it until thereâs no way they can access our templates. Thatâs the issue here. There shouldnât be a way to see templates, but sadly there is and that is causing the biggest problem.
Again, this exists for any developer. I spent probably 10 minutes trying to word this without malice, but if graphic designers want to be treated like developers, they should also have to deal with the hardships that comes with it. This doesnât just apply to Roblox, but real world too. Nobody starts off doing something with a reputation.