And the people trying to sell things for the first time? Many people don’t have a lot of robux, either way would make users spend money (which roblox obviously wants). Some buy it and end up with like only a few when they buy other clothing or game passes. Again, captcha. It’s already impossible to solve.
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Yeah, captchas dont fully prevent bots, I dont understand why roblox uses a really complex one instead a simple one, most captcha solving services outsource people in poverty and pay them per captcha they solve, meaning that any captcha will be solvable if its solvable by a human.
Also if its up to 100 R$ per item, what are your guys stances on people that will buy premium, make clothes for free and only have to pay monthly? Seems easier to me, and this will affect clothing groups a lot, especially small ones, and big ones too, I assume most of them put out items and pray that they get money on them. Now they will have to pray for profit as most will flop? Thats going to be very challenging, do you guys plan on adding a bulk upload feature where you can pay less when uploading more items? Cause that will change that a lot.
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Great update. This should help improve the quality of the catalogue. I can’t say I bother looking at it much due to the amount of botting and copies.
I hope the plugin marketplace gets some sort of quality assurance feature soon too!
@LucasTutoriaisSaimo that sort of defeats the object of the fee.
How? You’re already paying a monthly fee. Using real currency.
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Yeah, the spam will be solved a lot, everything has pro’s and cons I guess, small clothing groups might be screwed, but its very good that we can browse the catalog without our eyes being destroyed by something like “RED DRESS RED DRESS RED DRESS” or “ADIDAS ADIDAS ADIDAS ADIDAS ADIDAS”
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Because nothing is stopping you from using your own account for botting.
The captcha may not be the best currently, took me like 10 times to login, but it’s the best Roblox can do to stop bots. They are confusing… which is kinda the point to stop bots…
in my opinion, yes this is indeed a neat feature to have FOR NON PREMIUM USER but for premium user this is stupid. The fact you pay for premium at the first place then pay for the fee to upload a single asset, kind off little too much for clothing designer.
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This update is alright. The only thing I would like to see is if you could not have the fee for Premium users 
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Question, how high is the fee going to be?
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I don’t care about botting, these OLD botted items AREN’T going back! They’re just putting a EXTRA fee for me. Premium is now ONLY ABOUT TRADING.
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Then it’s easier for moderators to delete botted assets. Botted accounts don’t spend real currency. If you’re using your personal account; you must be absolutely stupid and moderators can easily delete botted assets and then probably your account. Paying Premium to begin with already shows that you are an actual person, because payment needs your real name, address, and zip code to authorize with the bank.
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The whole point is to change the current state of the catalog, so it won’t be an issue for profit. And as for avoiding the fee with premium, that would completely disregard the original purpose of this update. Spams will continue if so. This may suck short term but in the long term is much better for profit.
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How exactly would this update (disregarding captcha, focusing on the monetary part of it for a second) not make the catalog better?
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I am a veteran on this platform. I’ve been designing from the moment I joined- and continued to do so for 9 years. I am known to advocate for both big and small designers. I own a BLOXY award winning group recognized for pioneering the concept of “clothing groups” and it success in the fashion industry. This is not a good idea.
Since 2017 we’ve seen a lack of care for designers with the downfall of the market. The search engine was completely destroyed as a simple “blue shirt” turned into pages and pages of the same copied item. Then they removed groups from the BLOXYs as a possibility to be recognized for the hard work. The gap between designers and devs became bigger and the massive disconnect, due to ROBLOX’s poor ability to bridge it, made collaboration and acceptance of designers as true devs worse. You saw people learning how to manipulate purchases and sales in order to boost their items to the poorly moderated front page. Then UGC was introduced and clothing designers were not included under “user generated content,” and thus we were not offered any protections. A weak captcha system was implemented and botters/copiers immediately found ways to get around it.
So now, after years of not resolving a problem at its core that could’ve been nipped in the bud, after its grown into the supposed unmanageable beast ROBLOX makes it out to be, we get hurt at their expense. Not only will this not stop botting at all, it will cut the entire market of true designers by more than 3/4ths of what it is now. The black market exists, and people will find ways to cheaply charge groups and accounts up with enough robux to copy 5-10 pieces that will then get botted and drown out the front page, as business per usual. It is much easier to do this than to go through the process of buying premium for each account they want to load up with items.
What’s more, now true designers both big and small have to take into consideration making that fee back. On many occasions designers and groups, even Kestrel, have items that will never make anything close to 100 robux back on one particular item. Designers have to worry about paying themselves/their employees, paying money to run ads JUST to have a chance to compete with the poor front page, and maintaining a cult community within their groups to keep consistent shoppers. Having this paywall will only make it that much harder for people to get their start in this community. But even then, when speaking from a place of privilege and owning a group like Kestrel, I worry now about having to factor the amount of uploads we make a week with the fee on top of paying a fair fee to my designers to compensate for the poor market they deal with.
Look at the Gucci situation. A massive clothing company came on here and could charge 200 robux a piece (for clothing with copied shading from Kestrel, fyi), and it was fine because kids bought it for the name. We as designers are not afforded that kind of market. That sets a very very scary precedent for us. We have to now compete with massive companies ON TOP OF the botters and copying just for a chance to make an income. The market forcing us into 5-7 robux per piece which will hardly ever get 1-2 sales for smaller designers is ridiculous.
At any point in time was this decision even ran by anyone with experience being a designer? I feel as though the intentions there mean well but this entire thing has been poorly executed and there were millions of other things that could’ve happened (and can) down the line that would’ve prevented this from becoming the issue it is today. I feel as though something can be done to protect assets with watermarks, or better human moderation, a change in the search enginge something to make this situation less horrible than it already is.
I’m severely disappointed in all the devs in here who have no notion of what it is like to struggle as a designer agreeing with this idea point-blank. If a fee was applied for players to upload their games/maintain them onto the front page, the world would burn. Yet, here we are.
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This should help a lot with botted, or copied clothing, as botting/copying will result in a loss of profit.
Though does this go for uploading, or for putting your clothes onsale? What about devs who want to upload clothes for their games? Or users who just want a shirt or pants to personally use? This wouldn’t be a great change for them. It depends on how high the fee is also, small clothing designers or developers may not be able to make for example, 100 Robux off their items. I think this fee should cost 25 Robux at most.
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If that happens nothing will change good economically think about it, they are cleaning up the catalog so if you pay a fee for clothing you will get a lot more sales sort of like how UGC is guaranteed to get sales no matter what.
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Apologies if I missed some important info, but I’ve just skimmed over this post and the replies and I’m seeing people mention a 100 
fee yet no official confirmation this is the actual price. Is this just a rumor, or is that confirmed the price of uploading clothing?
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That’s the actual price I think. They accidentally published the update and people were charged that without knowledge.
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As a group owner of a 100k member clothing group, this really doesn’t seem beneficial to our businesses. Especially with the marketplace tax-cutting into our profits, and now it being a possible gamble to make a profit off of clothing isn’t very ideal for creators. Designers often make 50-100 Robux per piece on an average on a piece that doesn’t do too well, and with copied assets in the catalog, this is just another way to cut into small creators’ financial profit. This makes it only beneficial to the front-page catalog which is filled with copied assets. I’d really suggest reconsidering this as it harms a lot of people, or an alternative to help this not impact us as greatly.
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