At the very least, adding a form group owners can make for players to contact them/certain ranks. This is a decent alternative at least. This way, they can make suggestions/appeal bans. At the very least (again) they should also be able to SEE the group wall if they cannot post on it, this isn’t confirmed though.
Adding a way to ban players instead of just exile/kick them AND a way to custom filter/automod messages containing keywords is also a great way to handle it instead of banning half of the platform from ever communicating there.
This is just removing one of the last useful form of communication for <13 users to talk with developers and appeal bans, and like I said before, if they get (appealable/false) banned they are pretty much cooked if they don’t break TOS of roblox or discord
How interesting, I didn’t expect this kind of change to happen, some may disagree, some may agree, but a lot of the groups I’m in don’t use a group wall feature, they only use Discord for primary communication, I know it’s only for 13+, but restricting the group wall to 13+ is just crazy.
I don’t have my opinions on this, wouldn’t I agree or disagree, group wall is just like the YouTube comment section before 2013, you can’t reply to their message, and it can be unfortunate if you’re too late to respond their feedback or stuff like that, probably you’ll get hated or people complain that you haven’t responded to them, I feel like it needs improvement and possibly having the option to make it under 13 or 13+ only, I agree with people that want a feature called “Ban User”, It would be super useful for preventing scammers or some people who have made major damage to their group, or anything terrible.
They seem to hate people communicating. Removing messages, AND last online? And now group walls??? There are no alternatives provided to any of these, and I could give you better ways they could’ve went about all of these without harming anybody.
If you go into one of these groups, they will see the usernames anyways, and they like to friend request a lot of people just for being in these groups anyway. This effectively disallows <13 users to appeal bans whatsoever which is honestly my main concern
you could say the same about every other method of chat. will they just make all under 13s. also maybe im mistaken but its just that <13s can’t post, however they can still see which means they would still be exposed to that stuff.
This is a prime example of what group walls are not for - appealing bans. If someone ages 13 or younger happens to somehow be banned from a game - thats on them. Im most cases it will be a time ban for minor offences, or a perm ban if its something like exploiting. The whole basis that they can no longer appeal bans as they wont have access to group walls is a very unstable arguement. You have to look at the bigger picture - it will keep the users safer than they are currently.
Then why did y’all remove Messages if it’s part to the “core to the roblox experience”? I don’t get it, removing messages and then telling it’s part of the “core to the roblox experience.”
These players lose their only form of communication with mods and developers, due to not being able to use messages or discord. Which a lot of games like to put GAME rules in the discord server for whatever reason. They are as safe with the group wall as without if they can see the members/ groupwall(not confirmed) anyway.
People under the age of 13 dont contribute positively enough to recieve a platform. I deal with it daily. I would feel as though the whole roblox experience would be safer with them not being able to communicate in groups with hundereds of thousands of people in - all of different age and character.
Fair enough but I still believe there should be alternatives for them to communicate with high ranks, somewhat like a Ticket form. It would be set by the owner of a group, so it wouldn’t really affect you if you don’t want them to.
I don’t believe that most are incapable of contributing valuable feedback and suggestions just because of age.
Along with a complimentary mute and ban feature for the skibikiddies
I meant like a form directly for bug reports, suggestions, and appeals so none of this random group wall nonsense though, the developer would be able to set what form is what.
I completely agree. My 100k member group has been on manual approval for at least 13 years and that alone fixes 99.9% of group-wall related issues. This change, along side the change to the “Groups” button on the sidebar redirecting you to the group search page, will reduce how many users on Roblox interact with groups and communities on the platform. I know that many older players are on Roblox exclusively to help run groups and communities and any moves to reduce their relevance on the platform is a wholly negative one. I understand the need for safety among young users, but this change will simply make it so new Roblox users never get introduced to groups and communities and make it harder for new users to get into those communities.
a) Roblox should improve its moderation. I really do not believe there is an excuse for removing all of these features, group walls, profile messaging, etc. using moderation as the reason. I would immediately volunteer to be a moderator if Roblox would open it up to Americans.
b) I believe we should compromise on this issue and allow group walls to be used for manual approval groups. These groups generally do not have an issue with inappropriate posts or bot posts, especially if the group owner is active. This would also encourage people to use the manual approval feature more.
I see many people praising this update, but as a group owner, I won’t be joining them. I’ve ran groups/communities on Roblox since 2013 and I can say with certainty this update will not be beneficial for that genre of Roblox.
As someone who works with a small team (For a 50,000 member group) and is constantly busy - there is no time for accepting requests. Furthermore, regarding accepting requests, how can you tell if a user is underage or immature. I may be missing some information here, but surely manually accepting people is time consuming and would require frequent moderation. I still stand by the fact that people under the age of 13 practically have no use for group walls. Removing the feature for them would prevent them delving into groups like mine and yours, with tens of thousands of different aged people - and characters.
we should just be able to have a blacklist of words so we can block spam like this
just paste a term into the blacklist and it will prevent people from posting anything with that term in it
I can’t. I do not decline people for being under-age. We have never had any issues with them being in the group or being able to interact with people on the group wall. From what I can tell, this update is trying to combat issues related to open, free join groups that have issues with inappropriate posts and bots, not groups with actual moderation.
It’s really not too bad when you have done it for as long as I have. I can go through hundreds of requests without much sweat. I can understand why someone might have trouble doing it quickly if they are not used to it, but if you assign more than one person to do them, it would be a complete breeze.
Looking at your group, it looks like a UGC group. Our groups are, then, fundamentally different. I own a war “clan” group, if you will, that has daily events in our game and basically requires community interaction. This is why groups like mine have more use for the group wall feature than groups that exist to sell UGC items or exist to host a game on them, both of which are, I assume, mostly used for community feedback and for people to post their ideas.
