what is the point of this. like seriously its just making it harder for players to communicate
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They seem to hate people communicating. Removing messages, AND last online? And now group walls??? There are no alternatives provided to any of these, and I could give you better ways they couldâve went about all of these without harming anybody.
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There are a lot of groups where the group walls are used by âRoleplayersâ to advertise themselves. Restricting this can keep users under 13 safer.
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If you go into one of these groups, they will see the usernames anyways, and they like to friend request a lot of people just for being in these groups anyway. This effectively disallows <13 users to appeal bans whatsoever which is honestly my main concern
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you could say the same about every other method of chat. will they just make all under 13s. also maybe im mistaken but its just that <13s canât post, however they can still see which means they would still be exposed to that stuff.
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This is a prime example of what group walls are not for - appealing bans. If someone ages 13 or younger happens to somehow be banned from a game - thats on them. Im most cases it will be a time ban for minor offences, or a perm ban if its something like exploiting. The whole basis that they can no longer appeal bans as they wont have access to group walls is a very unstable arguement. You have to look at the bigger picture - it will keep the users safer than they are currently.
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Then why did yâall remove Messages if itâs part to the âcore to the roblox experienceâ? I donât get it, removing messages and then telling itâs part of the âcore to the roblox experience.â
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These players lose their only form of communication with mods and developers, due to not being able to use messages or discord. Which a lot of games like to put GAME rules in the discord server for whatever reason. They are as safe with the group wall as without if they can see the members/ groupwall(not confirmed) anyway.
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theyâre already working on this feature and release it in Late 2024.
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People under the age of 13 dont contribute positively enough to recieve a platform. I deal with it daily. I would feel as though the whole roblox experience would be safer with them not being able to communicate in groups with hundereds of thousands of people in - all of different age and character.
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Fair enough but I still believe there should be alternatives for them to communicate with high ranks, somewhat like a Ticket form. It would be set by the owner of a group, so it wouldnât really affect you if you donât want them to.
I donât believe that most are incapable of contributing valuable feedback and suggestions just because of age.
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Example of the negative contribution, again, I dont know how old this user is but I can certainly infer.
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Along with a complimentary mute and ban feature for the skibikiddies
I meant like a form directly for bug reports, suggestions, and appeals so none of this random group wall nonsense though, the developer would be able to set what form is what.
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I completely agree. My 100k member group has been on manual approval for at least 13 years and that alone fixes 99.9% of group-wall related issues. This change, along side the change to the âGroupsâ button on the sidebar redirecting you to the group search page, will reduce how many users on Roblox interact with groups and communities on the platform. I know that many older players are on Roblox exclusively to help run groups and communities and any moves to reduce their relevance on the platform is a wholly negative one. I understand the need for safety among young users, but this change will simply make it so new Roblox users never get introduced to groups and communities and make it harder for new users to get into those communities.
a) Roblox should improve its moderation. I really do not believe there is an excuse for removing all of these features, group walls, profile messaging, etc. using moderation as the reason. I would immediately volunteer to be a moderator if Roblox would open it up to Americans.
b) I believe we should compromise on this issue and allow group walls to be used for manual approval groups. These groups generally do not have an issue with inappropriate posts or bot posts, especially if the group owner is active. This would also encourage people to use the manual approval feature more.
I see many people praising this update, but as a group owner, I wonât be joining them. Iâve ran groups/communities on Roblox since 2013 and I can say with certainty this update will not be beneficial for that genre of Roblox.
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That is a very interesting and valuble insight.
As someone who works with a small team (For a 50,000 member group) and is constantly busy - there is no time for accepting requests. Furthermore, regarding accepting requests, how can you tell if a user is underage or immature. I may be missing some information here, but surely manually accepting people is time consuming and would require frequent moderation. I still stand by the fact that people under the age of 13 practically have no use for group walls. Removing the feature for them would prevent them delving into groups like mine and yours, with tens of thousands of different aged people - and characters.
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we should just be able to have a blacklist of words so we can block spam like this
just paste a term into the blacklist and it will prevent people from posting anything with that term in it
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I canât. I do not decline people for being under-age. We have never had any issues with them being in the group or being able to interact with people on the group wall. From what I can tell, this update is trying to combat issues related to open, free join groups that have issues with inappropriate posts and bots, not groups with actual moderation.
Itâs really not too bad when you have done it for as long as I have. I can go through hundreds of requests without much sweat. I can understand why someone might have trouble doing it quickly if they are not used to it, but if you assign more than one person to do them, it would be a complete breeze.
Looking at your group, it looks like a UGC group. Our groups are, then, fundamentally different. I own a war âclanâ group, if you will, that has daily events in our game and basically requires community interaction. This is why groups like mine have more use for the group wall feature than groups that exist to sell UGC items or exist to host a game on them, both of which are, I assume, mostly used for community feedback and for people to post their ideas.
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Actually yes.
Jailbreak gets so many messages that their team wants extra tooling to deal with it, despite them being on Discord already
Or the fact that Roblox has a dedicated help page for support centres for some top Roblox experiences
Existing means to get support and feedback from under 13s is now being cut off, this is not an acceptable outcome for a possible 6 months.
Sorry, I never want to rely on users violating other platforms rules and possibly getting developers and entire servers taken down for doing so.
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The thing is now bots are no longer allowed to post in the group walls, thatâs the most best update ever, thanks Roblox!
I find it important to note that a feature is not really a Roblox feature, or generally available to us; if it requires us to adopt another platform we do not want to.
Iâd like to see Roblox making itself available to integrate with our places of preference to communicate with our communities, instead of platform-locking us.