Humanoid causes serious mesh deformation issues

Urbanize · May 15, 2019, 11:34pm

So I’ve been creating some morphs for a 2.0 package. It was all going fine until quite recently, actually. Other morphs didn’t have the same issue, though the previous morphs were a lot simpler than this.

I’m certain that it isn’t an issue with the mesh’s normals.

The left model is with a humanoid. The right is without.

With humanoid

Without

Any ideas what this issue could be?
I’m worried I may not be able to create the game I was hoping to create. Either way, I’d like to know if this issue can be resolved so I know whether to continue spending time on it.

Thanks

Homeomorph · May 15, 2019, 11:48pm

Can you share the affected model?

Stratiz · May 15, 2019, 11:55pm

Im pretty sure hes asking him to send him the models in a file.

Urbanize · May 16, 2019, 12:14am

I would be happy to share the model with you privately

Cryptonox · May 16, 2019, 2:10am

I had a similar issue today with putting armor models within my humanoid.

Urbanize · May 16, 2019, 2:33am

They’re working on a fix at the moment

Korrow · May 23, 2019, 8:26am

They’re still fixing it? The problem still occurs for me after a week that you said so…

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Urbanize · May 23, 2019, 11:35pm

They told me it should be out by now, but maybe there’s been a delay.

I know the issue only affected new meshes uploaded after an update, so perhaps the fix has been applied to new meshes? Try re-uploading it.

If it doesn’t work then I’m not sure, I know as much as you now. Hope it works out!

Korrow · May 24, 2019, 10:43am

I’ll try to re-upload it, thanks.

Edit: It still happens also after the re-upload

Actually, according to my old games that I have uploaded meshes on this issue doesn’t occur.
Maybe it’s a problem with my model, i’ll try to model a new helmet right now

DevAwesomely · May 24, 2019, 10:57am

How did you name the clothes you made for your character?
Did you place the clothes inside of character model?

If so, I highly don’t recommend placing other parts in the character model.
Place a Humanoid in the character with all body parts ( Head, UpperTorso, LowerTorso etc. ).

Make a model of the Upper Clothes for your UpperTorso body part.
Place a new mesh with all properties same as UpperTorso inside of UpperClothes model and set the new UpperTorso part as a PrimaryPart of the model.
Weld the whole model to the PrimaryPart.
Weld the PrimaryPart of the model to the UpperTorso in the character model.

That would work, but if you are stuck in some of these steps, you could share the model, so I can fix it.

Korrow · May 24, 2019, 11:08am

That sounds like a great idea, i’ll try that.

Update:

that works fine

Tasama · May 27, 2019, 4:26pm

This seems to still be broken as of 5/27/19.

Proof

DevBuckette · May 27, 2019, 6:54pm

It doesn’t need to be a mesh, you can also use a normal part that has the same size as the UpperTorso.

You can do the same for every body part, too so that the helmet follows the head’s movement.

Lua_Basics · May 31, 2019, 4:48am

This is happening for me as well, I wonder why this is happening and if the humanoid changes the detail level of mesh parts in some way.

AbstractAlex · May 31, 2019, 10:34pm

This is affecting clothing in World Zero, exact same issue as OP. Makes our clothing flicker like it has floating point issues.

Can LOD be disabled until this is resolved?

PandaWithNoName · June 1, 2019, 1:17am

Hope this is fixed soon. Its a pretty big issue as its affecting our gun models we have recently imported and we cannot release an update with new content if its not fixed…

Fennecpaw · June 2, 2019, 12:56pm

This is still happening to me, and it’s stalling progress on all of my games. Honestly, I wouldn’t mind LOD just being disabled until this issue is fixed. It’s stalling everything, and I’ve been waiting well over a week for a fix. I can’t really work around anything I make because they aren’t adding onto the default R15 rig or anything, they’re custom characters on their own, imported from Blender.

AdministratorGnar · June 3, 2019, 9:54am

I don’t doubt a fix is being worked on but I really feel this issue isn’t being cared about as much as it should be. Sorry if BTS it’s being worked on thoroughly but we aren’t getting much response from actual staff yet.

The main thing I would REALLY appreciate knowing is: Are we going to have to reimport the affected meshes? If not then I can deal with them until a fix is out but otherwise there is no point trying to work with them.

As a side note; I haven’t been able to update my game in almost two weeks because of this. I really don’t want my community having to deal with these eyesores.

Fennecpaw · June 3, 2019, 7:01pm

I would really like to know whether or not we will need to reimport them as well. I have a bunch of rigs that are affected by this issue, and I’d hate to have a bunch of animations wiped due to re-importing the models.

wgeom · June 3, 2019, 8:41pm

Hi, there was a fix for these released last week but it led to some crashes, so we disabled it. New fix is about ready, we’ll try to get it out this week or it might go out next week. You won’t have to reimport the affected meshes.