I never claimed to know everyone involved’s motivations, but I am also not a fool and I’m far more open to reality than it seems you are as you clearly took what I said personally.
If we can’t have a discussion about the toxicity that was in posting approval or the veteran community at large, then we can’t have a real discussion, because that absolutely was very real and I’ve seen nothing to indicate anything has changed.
I 100% understand problems with scale. Yes, that implementation is an actual thing. However, especially for a publicly traded company, the “only solution we have” can’t be nepotism. Hand-picking who they want to hear from or who gets opportunities. If you can’t acknowledge the nepotistic traits that have been previously displayed and still are today, then once again, this isn’t a real conversation because you are not capable of acknowledging real things that happen despite your not feeling that way about it.
There is no universal good. Just the same as there are many good people at Roblox and within the regular+ community, there are also toxic people with horrible beliefs. I’ve personally seen much behind the walls of regular+ sections, I have real friends that are part of these. While I’ve been on this platform a long time, I know many people who’ve been on it much longer.
I’ve seen group discussions of veterans bashing the idea of professional developers while they form professional teams of their own. I’ve seen veterans openly on the forum bash new developers and refer to them as a bunch of 10-year-old kids and scammers. I’ve seen these people refer to adults on the platform as pedos while many of them are adults.
Early while I was learning to develop, I hired a lot of people, mostly from this forum, to help me by making templates, and resources. Some helped me just by teaching or answering questions. I didn’t speak to 1 or 2 or 3 isolated people, I’ve spoken to countless. I’ve worked with more developers than I could even count.
If you do not think the outside perception of this forum from developers, real developers, is bad, you should at least try to open your eyes or not bother speaking about things you don’t know. If you don’t think there are absolutely well-founded reasons why many legitimate developers have disdain for the way these things are handled, once again, you should open your eyes.
I am not so ignorant as to clump all people together. I am also not blind to realities, some of which have been openly expressed, and others expressed a little less openly. At the end of the day though, facts are facts and that’s all there is to it.
Roblox has failed for almost two years to do anything to allow a single developer a fair opportunity to move up and be able to have a voice on this platform. They have done nothing to create any criteria for advancement.
I don’t care if it’s arbitrary or not honestly. Anyone that thinks the only ones that have anything to contribute to this platform, suggest, etc. are a bunch of old veteran members, is a fool.
You should not need to be a popular influencer or part of some inner circle to have a voice on this platform.
Posting approval made me give up on bug reporting it was so ridiculous. You can call that maintaining quality, but it was a joke, one that I personally experienced trying to submit legitimate bugs that impacted my team and many others.
I have suggestions I would like staff to consider. I would like to be able to bring this stuff and have staff look at it or consider it without having to go through insane routes to get them to do so.
You see, I’ve gone to great lengths to improve this platform. Do you have any idea how much work, how many people I had to talk to, and what it has taken for me to speak to staff about important issues?
I am the one that made staff aware that there was a problem with image moderation and textures that was fundamentally broken. I’m the one that pointed out that the auto filtering for flagging images had like a 85% chance of picking up specular maps and metallic maps on PBR layers and that the moderation staff was not trained to address them, so people were not only getting their images falsely flagged, but also getting denied appeals on moderation.
I care a great deal about this platform and those I’ve worked with on it. I pour my heart and my time into this. I develop full-time now, so this isn’t a hobby anymore, and I absolutely dread the day I have to apply to DevX.
One of the things I would like to suggest is a major security issue that would help any developer that cares about it with very little work on the part of staff. One that depending on the level they were willing and able to implement/reimplement it, could help countless developers reduce the risks of theft of their assets. Something that I have a very personally invested interest in myself and it’s much simpler than a lot of what they are doing on other ends of this, so it would be a great addition to their efforts.
I see what gets posted now. Clearly, only letting the veteran click make suggestions isn’t exactly producing some fictional pool of only quality results and winners. So this thing they are trying to avoid exists anyway.
It’s very very hard to feel valued on this platform. When you’re not part of the special club, it’s much harder. Especially when you know some trivial bug or oversight that you can’t even make suggestions about improving or fixing could easily get your account banned and it’ll be a coin toss as to whether you ever get it back.