We’re not part of that discussion, and hence the problem at hand.
Facts are facts, interpretation is subjective.
It is not a made-up assertion that Roblox does not want us to be able to move up.
In fact, when you have a 24 billion dollar company that no doubt has heard this very issue brought up countless times, therefore you are certainly aware of it, having done nothing at all to do makes that a pretty reasonable conclusion.
If they wanted to, they would.
“Want” in this situation is not some feeling in your belly like “I want world peace”
This is a big company with a lot of money and resources.
If it had any real priority, it would be done.
So putting something at the bottom of some “to-do-list” that who knows when it will ever be handled without so much as posted updates or allowing those most impacted to be able to contribute or make suggestions… this does not leave an impression of “want” that anyone externally will feel validates them at all.
When Roblox does something like removing posting approval, our only possible avenue to move up, and then does nothing to address it for years. That is an act of intent. That is something that was done knowing there would be consequences. I had to once again work very hard to get them to even acknowledge that this circumstance existed. An action such as this is not an accident, hence why I used the term “on purpose”.
I get that they haven’t just abandoned it and they’re not keckling in the background saying “haha, fools”. That doesn’t mean they’ve shown us any respect, priority, or even concern for the way this impacts us. In fact, they as a whole largely ignore us except for the occasional canned message that looks like something a moderator copied/pasted.
People come and go, and even vets leave, so I do totally understand that Roblox is losing its source of feedback in a lot of areas. It’s just hard to have any sympathy for that at all when they have countless developers which could assist with this stuff, but have absolutely no way of doing so.
When I went to the lengths I did to get staff attention to the PBR texture issue, that was an insane amount of effort I don’t expect most people to do. I did it because I had legitimate fear my account was going to be permabanned just for uploading map textures, which almost happened.
I would love to have my time here spent discussing developer issues, having productive conversations, and contributing more to the platform.
That is very hard to do when the environment is a mix of a large group of people angry they have no voice and feel unvalued mixed with a group of people who do not share that struggle telling them all the reasons they’re essentially sick of hearing about it.
There are a lot of good developers here trying to contribute. There are a lot of new developers here trying to learn. So far, this environment doesn’t appear to be suitable for either of those things which often makes many of us wonder why we’re here.
Of all the developers I work with today. Of all those I talk with off platform and discuss things with, I don’t know a single one that still uses this forum, not even one, and I’ve asked every single one of them. In fact, I don’t even know a single one that has anything positive to say about this forum at all. When I talk to people on HD or Hidden Devs or any of these other groups, it’s pretty universally seen that those platforms exist largely because this forum is seen as not helpful, and all developers have things we need help with.
I’m sure you’re a great dev despite being pezsmistic. Unfortunately, this forum does not have an environment where meeting would be likely under better circumstances. Regardless, I hope you understand that you’re looking at our issue from the other side of the wall. Our feelings are not just stuff we make up in our head, they are directly caused by actions that lead us here.
Sure, that doesn’t speak to the actual motivations behind things, but then again, it’s not like we’re given anything to lead us to believe otherwise either.
By accident I saw I could post in a section I could not previously. I got excited like a kid at Christmas that I might be able to make my suggestion now. I was pretty bummed and let down when I couldn’t.
When I searched the forum trying to see if I could gather what was going on, well, these conversations are where that search led me. This brought back some old, and still active wounds I’d like to one day see mended here.
